On May 28th and September 24th, 1995 different groups of descendents of William Carl and Mary Heiden met to share their family memories. The conversations were recorded and later written transcripts were made. Below are excerpts which relate to this person or topic..

Pictured is what was called a cassette tape back in pre-digital times.

 

Ralph Heiden - How many of the 13 kids were around the house at the same time during those early years?

Norma "Jeanie" Heiden - When I was born, I already had nephews. Walter (left) and Lavern Berns (right) were born before I was.

Helma (Heiden) Nickel - She was an Aunt when she was born.

Norma "Jeanie" Heiden - Bob was born in May after I was born in April. Lila and Ma were pregnant at the same time.

Helma (Heiden) Nickel - Hilda, Mildred and Leo all got married in 1928. Jeanie was born in 1927.

Mildred - That’s the way with Gail. She really never considered Harold as a brother because he was married and out of the house long before she was born.

Ralph Heiden - What kind of activities did they have at Bridge School. Did they have plays or recitals?

Norma "Jeanie" Heiden - I was in a play one time. I got up and said, “We will now sing Fiddely Dee for YOU!” During practices, the teacher would always tell me to emphasize the “you” at the end.

Wilma (Heiden) Bicking (left) & Norma "Jeanie" Heiden (right) - (start singing together)

Fiddley Dee
Fiddley Dee
The fly has married the bumble bee.
The fly to the bee
Will you marry me?
And live with me,
Sweet bumble bee.
Fiddley Dee
Fiddley Dee

Helma (Heiden) Nickel -   Boy, you’re memory is still good to remember all that stuff!

Norma "Jeanie" Heiden - And then we’d sing The Old Grandfather’s Clock.

(Everyone singing together) -

“And it stopped short,
Never to go again.
When the old man died.”

Helma (Heiden) Nickel -   We had parent-teachers meetings way back then too. I remember I was in the second grade and we all had to get up and say a nursery rhyme. I played the part of Jack Sprat in the rhyme about Jack Sprat could eat no fat.

That is when Leo gave me the nickname, Jack. He had a nickname for everyone.

Mary Lou (Heiden) Opfermann - So that’s where that came from, I remember him calling you Jack.

Norma "Jeanie" Heiden - We always had music at school. Harrison Dentel played the piano and we had the old Golden Song Books.

Wilma (Heiden) Bicking - I still have a copy that we bought at a yard sale. We used to sing out of that every morning at Bridge School.

Helma (Heiden) Nickel - I have the 100th Anniversary Book for Bridge School if you would like to see it sometime, Ralph.

Ralph Heiden - When you reached the end of the eighth grade, then what?

Norma "Jeanie" Heiden - People back then always thought that 8th grade was enough schooling for anyone.

Wilma (Heiden) Bicking - You didn’t have to go on to high school in those days. I was the first one in our family to go.

Harrison Dentel came to the house when I finished the 8th grade. He said, “She’s only twelve years old. What is she going to do here at home? She should go on to high school.” Pa didn’t like the idea at all.

Mildred (Roggerman) Heiden - Art wanted to go on to high school so bad too. But when he was in 8th grade, they wouldn’t even let him go to Ida to take the entrance exam.

Norma "Jeanie" Heiden - They thought going to high school was foolishness. But finally, Harrison Dental talked and talked to them about Wilma and they gave in.

Then, when my time came several years later, I had to beg and beg. Pa said, “All Wilma learned up there was foolishness. Going to parties and such foolishness.” But, they finally gave in and I got to go.

Wilma (Heiden) Bicking - I was in the class play my junior and senior years. Elizabeth Johnson lived across the river and she would come to pick me up to take me to practice. When it was time for the play, they asked if my mother and dad were coming. I had to say, “No.” I wouldn’t have thought about asking them. Pa would have thought that it was really a lot of nonsense.

Helma (Heiden) Nickel - Back when I would have gone, you would have had to pay tuition to go to high school. The pastor’s kids were going to go and I could have gone with them but I would have had to walk to the parsonage to catch the ride every day.

Helma (Heiden) Nickel - Our road was mud at that time and we often had to walk to the corner to get a ride somewhere. You could usually get down to where Henry and Edna lived.

When I started working at River Raisin Paper, I rode with John Beaudrie and I had to meet him down at the corner at 6:30 every morning.

Wilma (Heiden) Bicking - I remember one Christmas Eve, everybody who came over for the party got stuck on the road. They had to get the tractor out and pull everybody out of the mud.

Ralph Heiden - Did you get snowed in very often back then?

Mary Lou (Heiden) Opfermann - Oh, I can remember walking down the ditches that were full of snow.

Wilma (Heiden) Bicking - We would still walk to the Bridge School no matter how deep the snow was then. It used to get a crust on top and it would be up as high as the fence posts. We would walk across that and have a lot of fun. There were always a bunch of us on the way to and from school each day.

There would be Walter (left) and Lavern Berns, (right) Lloyd Rath, Junior Barnaby and Harry Karney. There would be a whole gang of us. I remember hitting Junior Barnaby over the head with my lunch bucket. He fell down and I thought I really hurt him but he was O.K. 

Ralph Heiden - I always wondered why Grape existed. By the time I was around, there was only a general store there any more.

Norma "Jeanie" Heiden - Oh, that’s were they used to have “Grape juice!” It was the first electric generating plant there on the river. It’s were we got our electricity from at first.

Helma (Heiden) Nickel - There was a quarry there too. The Seitz’s had something to do with that and then they had a big trucking company. They went to the Bridge School and were sort of “big shots” there in organizing the 100th Anniversary celebration

Mildred (Roggerman) Heiden - Walter Berns (right) has a book all about Grape and the area around there.

Wilma (Heiden) Bicking - The family that lived in Grape were called the “Sourwines” but it’s spelled Saurweins. That’s the truth!.

Dianne (Heiden) Houpt - Did you get my reply to your E-mail?

Ralph Heiden - Yes. Isn’t that amazing.

Dianne (Heiden) Houpt - Ralph says on his email to me, “This is a long way from the farm, isn’t it? From the farm to email.”

Ralph Heiden - Myrna (Drake) Bishop’s husband, Jim, (left) is a professor at Notre Dame so we have been emailing things back and forth for a while now. It is a local call so it doesn’t cost anything.

(Note: This was in "ancient" times (1995) when internet connections went through a modem and a telephone line. I had a second phone line installed because while you were on the internet, you couldn't get regular phone calls to your land line which is another ancient technology.)

Helen (Henning) Heiden - Who is that now?

Ralph Heiden - That is Bertha (Heiden) Drake’s son-in-law. He is married to Myrna.

Mary Lou (Heiden) Opfermann - Where is Walter Berns’ daughter? She’s a professor too.

Ralph Heiden - Margie (right) is a professor of linguistics at Purdue University. She has her Ph.D. from the University of Illinois.

Marie (Heiden) Tommelein - She got married recently didn’t she?

Ralph Heiden - Yes. I think they are both professors at Purdue. There are also several medical doctors in the family now. Linda’s daughter, Erin, is a doctor. And so is Connie Sedelbauer and she is married to a doctor. She has a pretty responsible position at the University of Michigan Hospital.

Dianne (Heiden) Houpt  - That’s where I work and I see her all the time there. She’s partly in our department now. She is so pretty.

Mary Lou (Heiden) Opfermann - Where is Linda’s daughter a physician at then?

Ralph Heiden - I think she is at the Indiana University Hospital in Indianapolis.

Helen (Henning) Heiden -   I think both of Linda’s daughters are moving back to Michigan now. Linda mentioned that at the reunion.

Ralph Heiden - It’s also amazing to look at where all the kids have gone to college. Some of Carol’s (Toburen) (left) children went to Millersville University in Pennsylvania. Janice’s (Clark) (right) went to Louisiana Tech and Northeast Louisiana.

Dianne (Heiden) Houpt  - That’s interesting because before I came over here today, I went back and looked through all that stuff to see where all my nieces and nephews went to college.

William Frank Heiden - Millersburg. Isn’t that were Mike (Toburen) was taking a class and it turned out the guy teaching wasn’t even a professor. They arrested him and found out he did the same thing somewhere else too.

Helen (Henning) Heiden -   Mike said the kids knew more than he did!

[Looking at a picture.]

Ralph Heiden - That is the only five generation picture taken with Grandpa Heiden.

Helen (Henning) Heiden - Who is that then?

Ralph Heiden - There’s Edna, Walter, Lauren, Grandpa and Lauren’s first son, Sean. Walter made me this nice print since he still had the negative.

 

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Over the years, we have also received written memories and remembrances about this person or topic from various family members.

   
   
   

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Mildred Heiden Ralph Heiden Marie Tommelein  Brick Tommelein 
Wm Frank Heiden Helen Heiden Dianne Houpt Mary Lou Opfermann
Wilma Bicking Pat Klass Helma Nickel Jeanie Heiden
 
  • Wilma, Jeanie, Wm Frank, Helma & Marie were children of Wm Carl and Mary Heiden

  • Mildred was married to Arthur Heiden, son of Wm Carl and Mary and was mother of Ralph Heiden

  • Helen was wife of Wm Frank and they were parents of Dianne

  • Pat was daughter of Wilma Bicking

  • Mary Lou is daughter of Leo and Lucille Heiden

  • Ralph, Dianne, Pat and Mary Lou were first cousins

  1. Wm Carl & Mary Heiden
  2. Wm Carl Heiden
  3. Mary (Rambow) Heiden
  4. Heinrich & Emma (Stock) Heiden
  5. Herman & Reka Heiden (Article)
  1. Herman & Reka Heiden (Drake)
  2. Heinrich & Wilhelmina Rambow
  3. Walter Berns Poem
  4. Family Fun Times

  1. Alice Berlin
  2. Edna Berns
  3. Lavern Berns
  4. Walter Berns
  5. Wilma Bicking
  6. Myrna Bishop
  7. Caroline Brown
  8. Bertha Burgard
  9. Donna Burge
  10. Rika Burmeister
  11. Janice Clark
  12. Bertha Drake
  13. Mildred Eipperle
  14. Hilda Fuller
  15. Walter Grams
  16. Sally Guy
  17. Arthur Heiden
  18. August & Rika Heiden
  19. August Heiden Children
  20. Carl Heiden
  21. Ernst Heiden
  22. Harold Heiden
  23. Heinrich Heiden
  24. Heinrich Heiden Children
  25. Helen E. Heiden
  26. Henry Wm Heiden
  27. Herman Heiden
  28. Herman & Reka Heiden
  29. John Heiden
  30. Leo Heiden
  31. Lester Heiden
  32. Maria Heiden
  33. Mary Heiden
  34. Meta Heiden
  1. Norma "Jeanie" Heiden
  2. Robert Heiden
  3. Roger Heiden, Sr.
  4. Velda Heiden
  5. Wm Carl & Mary Heiden
  6. Wm Frank Heiden
  7. William Leo Heiden
  8. Dianne Houpt
  9. Kanseyer Family
  10. Lena Koster
  11. Marvin Koster
  12. Laas Family
  13. Libbie Laas
  14. William Laas
  15. Lucille Lehmkuhl
  16. Milhan Family
  17. Frederick Milhan
  18. Henry Milhan
  19. Linda Miller
  20. Möller Family
  21. Helma Nickel
  22. Mary Lou Opfermann
  23. Rambow Family
  24. The Rambows by Drake
  25. Fred Rambow
  26. Henry Rambow III
  27. Minnie Rambow
  28. Wilhelmina Rambow
  29. Fredareka Schmidt
  30. Pastor Don Thomas
  31. Carol Toburen
  32. Dennis Tommelein
  33. Marie Tommelein

  1. Bridge School
  2. Christmas Eve Party
  3. Dentist Visit
  4. Dixon Rd Lots
  5. The Great Depression
  6. Education
  7. Emigration
  8. Five Generations
  9. German Book
  10. Germany
  11. Grape Community
  12. Wm Heiden Home Farm
  13. Indian Burial Ground
  14. Letters from Germany
  15. Life on the Farm
  1. Lutheran Church
  2. Mecklenburg, Germany
  3. Middle Names
  4. Nephews
  5. Helma Nickel's Cooking
  6. Old Receipts
  7. Reunions
  8. Sparrow Hunting
  9. Stormy Weather
  10. Wedding Shiveree
  11. Willows by the River
  12. The Woodlot
  13. Work on the Farm
  14. Wakefield Gifts